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What Kurosawa and Godard might have in common

This was written in a thread discussing Godard's PIERROT LE FOU which led to a discussion of didacticism in fim (specifically Godard's films), which in turn led to a discussion about Kurosawa's didacticism. The message text to which I responded to is in italics:

May 21, 2003

3-21-03

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I strongly disagree with jiankevin [that's me] who wants to label all traditional narrative films as fully didactic. This dilutes the word "didactic" to the point where it is practically meaningless.

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sure,whatever, but you have to see the point here that I was making -- that traditional narrative films operate in a way that enforces a way of seeing on the viewer. In that regard, it has an equal claim to the word "didactic" to describe what it is doing than what you are arguing for Godard and Pierrot. But if it makes the word useless to describe both, so much the better.

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I even object to his consistent criticism of Kurosawa as didactic. Yes, Kurosawa's movies present a strong worldview, but that seems insufficient to justify using a generally derogatory and politically loaded word like "didactic." I'd prefer to restrict the word "didactic" to describing movies like I Am Cuba, which is didactic and brilliant.

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I kind of touched on this in a response to bkamberger explaining my problems with William Wyler. I don't so much have a problem with whatever view on the work Kurosawa is pushing -- and you can even say that, like Bergman, he's not so much didactically pushing a worldview as he is restlessly exploring it. I just don't happen to always appreciate the restlessness with which Kurosawa and Bergman do their exploring -- as I explained with the case of HIGH AND LOW, I feel like Kurosawa uses a lot of narrative maneuvering to give the impression that he has explored society inside out, but that ending only makes me feel that he's scratched the surface, that we've only begun to move from Mifune's cloistered view of the world of good vs. evil into something that treats the underlings of the world like human beings. but in any case the word "didactic" fails to describe this problem -- I'm not even sure anymore if the ending of RASHOMON, which I originally used that word to criticize, would even qualify as "didactic".

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Brief digression, responding more to jiankevin than ali: Many traditional artists use their art to present their subjective and occasionally judgmental worldview, rather than the approach of opening up a non-judgmental presentation that encourages multiple interpretations. jiankevin likes the artistic freedom provided by the latter approach, but I'd like to claim that the well-articulated presentation of a worldview (the Kurosawa approach) offers just as great opportunities for artistic reflection by the audience on the content of the material. In other words, there's never been a strict dichotomy between audience-as-audience and audience-as-artist. In addition, the non-judgmental presentation is discreetly loaded with an aesthetic point of view that celebrates its own openness -- it may present an open-minded worldview but a worldview nevertheless. (This is a little off the Pierrot topic, because I find Godard's style in Pierrot closer to Kurosawa's than, say, Mizoguch's.)

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I think you might be on to something with that comparison. I agree that Kurosawa's presentation of his worldview is well-articulated, though not masterfully articulated -- though to be really fair I don't know if Godard deserves the title "master" -- he's not so much interested in achieving mastery in the classical sense as he is in interrogating the very meaning of "mastering" an artform. But back to Akira. In his most singular films, Kurosawa's vision can be described as a world in perpetual chaos and turmoil (ahh yes, there is a connection to Godard with this much), and I see that reflected in Kurosawa's restless narratives, with their sudden shifts in event, tone and outlook.

Judging from RASHOMON, IKIRU, SEVEN SAMURAI, and HIGH AND LOW, Kurosawa thrives on using big swathes of drama to take the viewer from one emotional or philosophical high to another. He'll set up the viewer to think and feel one way and then take them on a big swing in another direction. While I at times find this a bit too coercive at times, I also think it's a natural reflection of his own thought process -- he strikes me as a very moody personality who will go from one extreme to another in working over a given issue. At his best , the sheer energy invested in these enterprises is staggering, and leaves no stone unturned until every consideration has been made and we are face to face with a moment that speaks to an ineffable condition: samurai contemplating the farmers in the end of SEVEN SAMURAI, or a playground planted precariously in the middle of a bustling, impersonal city in IKIRU. Obviously the ending of HIGH AND LOW features a similar juxtaposition, but it didn't leave me with the same feeling, that Kurosawa had worked every angle to the story -- the kidnapper was less a human being than a symbol of vengeful, oppressed humanity. And it's moments like these that leave me feeling that Kurosawa at times relies too much on the sheer momentum of his storytelling to entertain the viewer, such that it risks distracting both director and audience from the thorough examination of the themes, and the impression of profundity supercedes the real achievement. I see this same trait in Kurosawa's #1 disciple Spielberg in SCHINDLER'S LIST, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN and MINORITY REPORT.

Anyway, there is noone quite like Kurosawa, and Lord knows he has influenced filmmaking all over the world like few before or since, with his aggressive, robust, manic-depressive cinema. Attributes that, wouldn't you know it, might also apply to Godard.

 

 

 

 

 


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